Newbie here with a question

[tobey]

as far as the powerheads with magnets there are many available most common used unless you have a lot of money to spend are Koralia's. I personally have two of them one for each of my tanks. They come in many sizes and you can find them used all the time for fairly cheap.

[Frogfish]

If you are anywhere close to a local reef club, you can look there for some great bargins on used equipment.  Unfortunately, lots of people are getting out of the hobby these days.

[QueenI3itch]

OK I know I've been hiding, but have been poking around and doing a little research.
I really wanted the new Red Sea when I got my income tax, but stumbled across this and couldn't resist.
I think I found the perfect starter.
Been talking with the guy, and there are a few problems. I want the setup, but it's a 2 hour drive to him, not much of a problem.
I have to tear the tank down, and have no clue how to do it. It comes with fish and livestock, but I don't think they will make the drive back to my house.
Would Like to have someone look at this and tell me what they think? I think for a starter reef its one HELL OF A DEAL! But worried about the Lionfish and the Cinnamon not making the drive home, because I have to tear the tank down myself. He has nowhere else to  take the fish or put them, so I have to take them. It would be a shame to waste em, so I agreed.
The owner is out of town on business and his girlfriend has no clue how to take it down.

~~~~~65 Gallon Reef Ready Aquarium~~~~~

Tank and stand (Tank is drilled) - Overflow designed as mini Refugium.
Two (2) Reef quality light fixtures both hold 2 bulbs. $ in all... White, blue, moonlight...
Wet dry filtration system under tank.
Protein skimmer in sump of wet dry filter.
Water pumps, return and skimmer pumps.
light strip with 3 way timers for proper lighting.
$500 worth of Fuji live rock delivered directly from Fuji VIA Sea Dwelling Creatures in California
4 inches of live sand on bottom
Many many live hermit crabs.
Cleaner Shrimp, Red star fish...
Live fish to include: Dwarf Lion, cinamon clown.
Copapod culture is very rich, the Mandarin has been thriving.
All sorts of other extras, hydrometers, a full bucket of sea salt worth $50 bucks (instant ocean brand)

So for a starter reef setup, what do you think? All this for $265 bucks, but I'm paying him $300 if he waits till wed. Almost sounds too good to be true. But the tank is in his sisters apartment, and she is moving this week, and can't take it with her.

[Hosser]

Looks like it would be worth the money for just the rock IMO. Rock is going to be tougher and tougher to get so if its really Fiji and looks to be more than 50 pounds you got a good deal there. The rock does need some care with cleaning the hair algae off, but since its out of the tank already no better time then now to scrub it with a good brush. (we can expound on that later)
As far as the lights are concerned it looks to me you have a Current Orbit light PC on the back and looks to be either an AquaTraders or a coralife T5 or PC on the front, so so lights but that can always be upgraded.
A 65 gallon tank is well worth that alone new so with all the extras its a good deal.
Now the fish, if you keep the lion its going to limit your other inhabitants, if you dont want it I say post it locally for another fish keeper or check with a LFS ( I know local ones for me would rather not have them but you never know).

Bag up all the crabs together or in a container that you can get out. Same with the snails. I personally left my sand bed but it was very shallow that seems to be quite a bit of sand and leaving it in the tank might lend to cracking. Re-using the sand would ultimately lead to needing to let the tank sit for several weeks or until the nitrates and ammonia are at 0 again.
If your just asking about a good deal I say it is. .....
a few questions to ask
Any medications used in the tank?
How old is the livestock, rock included?

Check stand for stains alluding to leaks.

[QueenI3itch]

I only want a reef tank, so mainly just corals and such.
The tank has been set up for a few years. the Lion never touched the cleaner shrimp or anything else surprisingly.
I called all the local fish shops, and no one wants it. Was quite surprised,  and I don't know of anyone near me interested in it.
As for the sand, that was my first priority, clean the tank out completely. I don't mind having to re establish the tank again. I know its a long road to a nice reef, and am willing to take the time. He says he has some things to store the rock and sand in, but I need to bring something for the live animals. I might stop at the local pet store and grab some bags, but it's gonna be 21 out on wed here, and I'm just so worried I'm gonna lose them.
No medications were used.
As for the Hairline, I thought to put some nudibranch in there or something that would eat it.  but will research to make sure not to get anything to eat my corals.

Just a note on a diff topic.
I adore this site, you are all so helpful, and so fast at reply's. I just wanted to send out a shout to all you and say thanks so much for making this such a wonderful experience so far, for this newbie.
 

[Hosser]

Well the FWC (Florida Wildlife Commission)as well as The University of Central Florida recommend if no other options are available to you then to contact a LFS as to the most humane way to dispose of the unwanted fish. what I would do personally is get a 5 gallon bucket, some bags and a couple heat packs. Put all the fish and livestock in the bags in the bucket then fill the bucket with tank water. Put in the heat packs (preferably in something as well) to keep the water warm enough and it should be okay.
It was only about 40 when I moved last weekend and if you take the proper precautions and keep the heat on in your car ha ha you will be just fine. Using the bucket thing will help though cause it takes longer for a larger amount of water to get cold and the short trip to the car shouldn't hurt them.
If your keeping the sand bed (I'm sure you've researched pros and cons to it) might as well toss it in the tank when you get home and vacuum it.
Glad to hear your planning on being patient biggest obstacle to overcome IMO.

[QueenI3itch]

OK this is really gonna sound newbish, but what in the world is a heat pack, and where would I get one? 
I plan on getting whatever large hodling things I can with lids. I wanted to try and at least keep the rock submersed in the tank water, and keep as much as I can for the livestock.
I'm so glad Micheal said about curing the rock in that 29gal I already have set up.  It's just the rock, filters water, and lights. Temp salinity and everything seems to check out fine. So I'll be putting them in there when I get home. I'll also later move this 29g tank to our storage room, in case of emergencies. Nothing better then having a backup in case something bad turns up. 

[Hosser]

Those hot hands last for like 6 hours would be just fine, but again Id double ziplock bag them or something. You can get them at most gas stations up there or in the camping section at WalMart. I would do as your wanting to as well as keep the rock submerged as much as possible. Also Using enough to keep the livestock warm is good to do. This rock would already be cured out if you can get it in the tank quick enough, I would put the livestock in the 29 if you dont have something else and let the rock cycle out along with the sand. But thats just how I would do it and its a hobby full of whatever works best for you, there is no right or wrong way in many cases. Cant wait to get updates on this though hint hint hehe

[Frogfish]

sounds like you have a great deal going!!!  Moving a tank is not necessarily hard, but you MUST have a plan.

Check out this link from my local club.  There are a lot of good suggestions about how to move a tank.

If there is a reef club in your area I would post the lionfish for sale real cheap... maybe $20.  Someone will probably take it.

I would make sure that you take someone else to help you move everthing.  You can get 5 gallon buckets and lids at Lowes or Home Depot.

[michael]

Check out this link from my local club. 

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[QueenI3itch]

  I'm with Micheal what link? 

Jason the guy selling me the tank wants me to think about keeping the lion. I'm going to do some research today, as I only want a reef tank and maybe a pair of Black percula in there.  I don't want anything that will actually harm the reef, to damage it while growing it. Just trying to keep my mistakes to a minimum.

All I know about it sofar is it is a dwarf Lionfish, a Cinnamon, a bunch of crabs and a cleaner shrimp, as you can see in the photos.

I want to give them a link to this site here but not sure how to send it with me as a referal.

I'll keep my information as up to date, and step by step, going to call them again today and make arrangements and make sure I have as many buckets and things to move everything safely.

[Hosser]

As I am not a lion fish fan, and one who thinks due to enviromental impacts they are a huge responsibility to keep, I do understand their appeal.
Here is a decent bit of info on them
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/lionfish/Dwarf.php

We pulled the refferal set as the current refferel contest has ended. Sorry if it has caused any confusion.

[QueenI3itch]

Nah it's fine just didn't know if you kept track of new members like that or anything.

I'm dropping off the Lionfish and the Cinnamon clown at the LFS in Monroeville on the way back though coming home. I just don't think their going to make it, and I don't want to chance it.

As for the shrimp and crabs, I'll be bringing them home, and putting them either in the 29g curing tank or the 8g till I can get the other tank set up and established. Only thing living in the tanks are snails. I toss in an algae tablet 3 times a week for them. They seem to be doing fine. There were crabs, but I tossed them in the 29g to help cure the rock. I'm so glad the 29 isn't going to be hard to move across the room with the stand that it is on, because that is where the 65g is going. You can pretty much slide it across my carpet with 2 men very carefully and very slowly. Boy that sounds worse then it seems.

I'm going to try and clean up that whole setup as there was no hood, and there looks to be A lot of salt build up on it, but I'm prepared for that. I found out that using vinegar helps to clean the salt build up on the tanks. I use airstones in my tanks, and that helps to produce A lot more salt on the tanks, so I keep a handy spray bottle of vinegar around and rinse off with a hot wet rag.

Been showing my Fiance the site, and trying to talk him into building me a hood to cover the lighting ion the 65 and the 29. I'm going to also have plexi glass cut specifically for each tank. Kind of to help the salt buildup, better safe then sorry for future inhabitants if I can't do the reef as well as I hope.

But I am sending a warning. I have no clue how to set up the wet dry, protein skimmer and such under the tank. So I will be taking lots of photos of everything, and praying some of you can walk me through it. I was talking to a few people form the LFS that I use for all my saltwater, and they said something about trying to keep the bulkheads on. Was curious after I send photos if someone could explain more on that to me.

Doing A lot of research before I ask too many more newbish questions. Trying to get as knowledgeable as I can on my own.

[Hosser]

Please dont feel you are asking newb questions, in fact we have been scratching our heads trying to get more new comers to ASK questions. We would gladly appreciate the questions no matter how newbish you think they are cause honestly we dont have enough of that on the site.
A sincere thank you for the questions from all the MRK Staff.
And we will all gladly help all we can and make this a great experience as with the rest of ours.

[Frogfish]

sorry for forgetting the link, but I was just trying to build up the interest first!!! 

http://www.cincyreef.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14931&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=moving